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John Wolanski wrote:

> Hey, I don't have an actual solution to your problem, unfortunately, but
> I do have some additional data that might help you in your
> investigations.
>
> At the time this happened, I didn't have Quake2 yet, just Quake1 and it
> happened in there, too.  But here is the deal:
>
> I normally only swear by serial mice.  Don't ask why, probably because
> all the computers I've had have been non PS/2 boards, but anyway...  One
> day I decided to try out the Logitech Mouseman Mouse.  It was PS/2 and
> had three button, plus one on the side for the thumb for a total of
> four.  When I hooked that puppy up and installed the drivers for it, I
> got the same problem as you described.  "Mouse-buffering" or some such
> term I think it's called (but don't quote me on that, your
> "decceleration" description works just fine).
>
> The faster I turned my mouse, the slower I turned in Quake1.
> Unfortunately, I was so disgusted with it (and I mean REALLY disgusted)
> that I immediately packed it up and returned it, going back to my trusty
> ol' three button serial before I even tried to resolve the problem.  I
> also didn't like it because it's ergonomic design made me move it
> slightly at an angle which altered my look up/down angle drastically
> (but helped TONS with my carpal tunnel syndrome ;), but that was just a
> personal preference and the way I happen to like to slide my mouse <G>!
>
> Maybe it's the driver for it?  If it's only two buttons then you don't
> really need any special drivers to make W95 recognize 3-4 buttons.  Try
> the Microsoft Standard mouse drivers that Windows comes with and see if
> that helps.  The only benefit I've ever seen from those "Mouseware" type
> drivers that ship with many mice these days is that they'll let you
> recognize more than 2 buttons.  Since you don't need to have this done,
> maybe it'll help?  Is your mouse PS/2?  If so, then you'll have to use
> Windows' PS/2 driver and not the serial one.  If that doesn't work,
> maybe try a serial mouse?  I know, you're probably sick of people
> telling you "it's your mouse!", but trying a serial mouse might help to
> isolate if it's the mouse or a problem with the typical PS/2 drivers out
> there.  And that's one more step to solving the problem (if there even
> is a solution)!
>
> Oh, also, maybe your mouse is dirty?  JUST KIDDING!
>
> --
> John Wolanski
>

Actually, the mouse i use is a serial mouse, and i've tried a lot of
drivers, they haven't made much of a diff... i can't use the standard win95
one because i play with no-acceleration and it doesn't have that option as
far as i know...(altho i did try, just to see and it didn't fix the prob).

You said you installed a new mouse, it "de-accelerated", you went back to
the old one and it was fixed?  That's weird, because i've tried a lot of
different mice, and none of them have fixed the problem, what kind of mous
are you currently using?
(I've got a logitech "first mouse" serial)

I'm thinking i should fly down to E3, kidnap John Carmack, and torture him
till he fixes the problem... seems like the only way around this prob.... :)



